Are 9/11 Memorials Still Worth It, 11 Years On?
Memorial concert is in its eleventh year.
Over a decade after the 9/11 terror attacks, how long should this country continue mourning the victims?
The crowd at Tuesday's 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis' Linden Hills neighborhood was around half the size of last year's 10th anniversary memorial concert. But for the hundreds that did show up to perform, to organize the event, and to watch, this anniversary was still worth commemorating.
To some, the live television images of jet liners crashing into skyscrapers were still fresh in their minds.
"As I was helping hang the scrolls (showing the names of the 9/11 dead) on the side of the Bandshell, a jet flew over, and the sound just made me cringe," said Minnetonka resident Mary Helmbrecht, one of this year's event organizers. "Those horrific attacks are still so raw for me."
Others said the anniversary was important to mark because of the attacks' deep impact on the country.
"It changed all of our lives, how we think of the world," said audience member Glory Kibbel of Forrest Lake. "After 9/11, there was this sense that 'it could happen to us,' too."
Ingjerd Postmyr, a Norwegian resident in Minneapolis to visit friends, said that the 9/11 attacks impacted people across the world.
Kibbel and friend Donna Adams of Minnetonka said they didn't think America or Americans had felt that vulnerable since the early days of the Cold War.
"Those of us who lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis know what it's like to feel under threat," Adams said.
Other concert-goers said it was important to mark the memory of the 3,000 attack victims.
"I remember that day, people were saying 'We'll never forget you,' and I really meant it when I said it," said East Harriet resident Susan Gray, another event organizer.
Postmyr and others told Patch that commemorations like the Lake Harriet concert are one way to try to keep the victims' deaths apolitical.
"In Norway, we just had a memorial to our national tragedy, July 22 of last year. The most important thing is to get together," she said, referring to the 2011 Utøya massacre by a right-wing gunman. "You want to keep the memory of those victims sacred."
Over and over again, though, audience members and participants told Patch that they wanted to commemorate what they said was a moment where Americans overcame their political differences to stand together as a country.
"It's so out of character for me to even be at something like this," Gray said. "But today, it feels ok to wave the flag and be grateful for that coming together."
Jane
12:19 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The post by Hope says it all:
In New York on 9/11 anniversary this year, politicians where asked to stay away.
Many of the survivors and families of the victims said it was time to move on, and use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable cause, as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11. They said after 10 years it was time to move on and did not attend the ceremonies. The morning ceremony in New York that used to be attended by thousands was only attended by 200 people. The rest of the ceremonies in New York also had similar drops in attendance. Most towns around New York canceled their ceremonies saying it was time to move on, and also asked people to use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable causes and random acts of kindness, as a way of paying respect to the victim of 9/11. The same thing happened across the United States of America.
Minnesotans at their best; hundreds of Minnesotans are spending this Day of Service giving back to the community in honor of 9/11. In Minneapolis Second Harvest Heartland Hosts 9/11 Day Of Service
The Minneapolis the Lake Harriet Band Shell - Minnesota 9-11 Tribute concert should end. It has turned into a publicity event for WCCO's Frank Vascellaro, Bob Bayers, and others. As comments here have shown this concert does not honor the victims of 9/11 or the police, firemen, rescue workers, military. People should be using their time volunteering, instead of this publicity event.
God Bless America
Jane
12:59 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Another reason the concert should end is that very few people were in attendance. Yesterday, The 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis' Linden Hills neighborhood. The audience was roughly the same size as the band and the choir. And most in attendance were Senior Citizens, as they are bused in from Senior Citizens Homes.
I think most people listened to the wishes of the survivors and families of the victims of 9/11, who said it said after 10 years it was time to move on, and for people to use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable causes and random acts of kindness - as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11, the police, fire department, rescue workers, and military.
Example: Minnesotans at their best; hundreds of Minnesotans are spending this Day of Service giving back to the community in honor of 9/11. In Minneapolis Second Harvest Heartland Hosts 9/11 Day Of Service
As the Minneapolis Park Board donates a great deal of time and effort to this concert. It would seem there would be better uses for Minnesota tax money. A great deal of time, money and effort for a very few people.
God Bless America
James Sanna
1:17 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I'm not trying to argue your point about the worth of this event, but you're way off-base when you talk about the audience and the "tax dollars" bit. It was about half last year's overflow crowd, sure. However, when I counted the crowd (and you can do for yourself using the picture posted above), I came up with around 250-300 in the audience, with an average age of about 55-60, depending on how many folks there colored their hair. The choir was about 40, counting the conductor, and the orchestra was about the same size.
Even if you add in the flag-bearers and color guard, that's nothing like your claim that "the audience was roughly the same size as the band and the choir."
Also, I don't believe the Park Board spent more money on this than they do on other concerts at the bandshell. According to the sponsor acknowledgments printed program, all they provided was the sound equipment.
Jane
2:41 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ James – Thank You. I will give you the around 250 people in the audience, and choir and orchestra was around 80 people.
That would make the 9/11 Tribute Concert one of the smallest audience at the Lake Harriet Bandshell this year. And there is a concert every day during the summer at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis' Linden Hills. And some concerts draw 2,000 people in the audience.
Anyway, it really doesn’t matter the exact count when the audience gets this small, the public has spoken and said the Minnesota Tribute Concert has ended. People spoke loud and clear by not showing up. Only 250 showing up for a highly publicized concert on a nice weather day, says it is time to end it.
I would agree the average age to be around 55-60, and there did not seem to be many people there under 35 years old (including the choir and orchestra). When you average half the audience being over 65, and the other half seeming to be in their 40 and up, average age to be around 55-60, seems reasonable.
Jane
3:02 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ James
Around 250 people in the audience.
The choir and orchestra were around 80 people, add the flag-bearers, color guard and volunteers, you get well over 100 people.
If each of the 100 had 2 family members or friends come to the concert, the concert audience would have been over 200 people.
And yet there were only 250 people in the audience. And other concerts at the Bandshell draw 2,000 people in the audience.
Anyway, it really doesn’t matter the exact count when the audience gets this small, the public has spoken and said the Minnesota Tribute Concert has ended. People spoke loud and clear by not showing up. Only 250 showing up for a highly publicized concert on a nice weather day, says it is time to end the 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis' Linden Hills neighborhood.
Jane
3:11 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ James Sanna
Thank You. You do a wonderful job at the patch.
mary helmbrecht
5:09 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ Jane.....Thank you for your input; it is obvious your comments are complete with inaccuracies and factoid, though you obviously have an interest in 9-11 events all over the country.
We always have an interest in people who also want to remember the 9-11 tragedy and honor those who serve as Military and First Responders.
We would encourage you to contact us and be involved in our organization and planning for next year. Our meetings begin next month and are weekly until the event next September 11.
We will discuss your comments, as your perspective is quite different, and also those of all the other people who have favorably responded AND APPRECIATE A PLACE TO GATHER TOGETHER AS AMERICANS, and have requested CD/videos of the event, at our follow-up meeting next week.
We are all volunteers and completely dedicate our time and energy to making this an important, thought provoking and memorable community event.
"WE MUST NEVER FORGET" this tragedy just as we remember the "Day of Infamy"
Thank you, I look forward to your contacting me to join us and discuss this further.
Mary, Minnesota 9-11 Tribute Board Member
PS.........NO part of this event was paid for by the Park Board
mary helmbrecht
5:10 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
FOX 9 COVERAGE OF "MN 9-11 TRIBUTE":
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7714064#.UFDs7EjxEf8.facebook
mary helmbrecht
5:13 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@JAMES--THANK YOU for your attendance, cverage and story as well as your support!! It is greatly appreciated by the entire Minnesota 9-11 Tribute Board!!
Mary
David Krieg
5:25 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I attended for the first time this year and I, for one, hope it continues. Being together with others that no doubt had the same emotions as I concerning what happened on 09/11 was vey comforting. I felt like it showed a strength and communicated that we are still a United States of America when you harm us. The same ideologically-driven savages perpetrated a similar crime, the murdering of innocent people, while we were gathered in remembrance. In my opinion, it's way too early to end the tribute.
Susan Gray
6:27 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Jane - I'd like to make a correction to one of your posts. The Minneapolis Park Board did not contribute any financial resources to the 9-11 concert. In fact, the 9-11 Tribute Concert committee paid the Park Board to rent the Lake Harriet Band Shell. I'm puzzled by your angry tone and grossly inaccurate crowd estimate. I respect your choice to engage in community service on 9-11 and hope that it brings you peace.
Jane
6:27 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
No debate, it is over. I think most people listened to the wishes of the survivors and families of the victims of 9/11, who said it said after 10 years it was time to move on, and for people to use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable causes and random acts of kindness - as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11, the police, fire department, rescue workers, and military.
Anyway, it really doesn’t matter the exact count when the audience gets this small, the public has spoken and said the Minnesota Tribute Concert has ended. People spoke loud and clear by not showing up. Only 250 showing up for a highly publicized concert on a nice weather day, says it is time to end the 9/11 Tribute Concert,
only 250 people in the audience vs The choir and orchestra were around 80 people, add the flag-bearers, color guard and volunteers, you get well over 100 people. very sad
That would make the 9/11 Tribute Concert one of the smallest audience at the Lake Harriet Bandshell this year. And other concerts at the Bandshell draw 2,000 people in the audience
Anyway, it really doesn’t matter the exact count when the audience gets this small, the public has spoken and said the Minnesota Tribute Concert has ended. People spoke loud and clear by not showing up. Only 250 showing up for a highly publicized concert on a nice weather day, says it is time to end the 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis' Linden Hills neighborhood.
mary helmbrecht
6:40 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@Jane..... In regard to your comment....."I think most people listened to the wishes of the survivors and families of the victims of 9/11, who said it said after 10 years it was time to move on, and for people to use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable causes and random acts of kindness - as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11, the police, fire department, rescue workers, and military".....I'm just wondering WHY you chose to attend if YOU want to respect "their" wishes??
I suggest in the future, that you just do not attend things YOU do not approve of or agree with and leave the events to those of us who CHOSE to be or want to be part of the community remembering the tragedy of 9-11 and honoring America TOGETHER with music.
And please remember ....for the 95F degree weather, 40-50MPH wind and the fact this year's concert was on a Tuesday (work and school day) and not a Sunday, I and Fox Ch 9 think there was a terrific turnout!
Thank you and as I said....feel free to volunteer your time and energy WITH us to make this not only a remembrance of the tragedy but also a celebration of America's strength!!
Jane
6:52 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ Susan Gray, James Sanna an unbiased Reporter for the patch came up with an estimate of 250-300 in the audience by counting the people in the pictures. Other people who careful studied it came close to the same estimate.
And no need to try switch the argument, nobody is mad or angry, your “I’m puzzled by your angry tone and grossly inaccurate crowd estimate” is clearly meant as a defensive argument – very sad
No debate, it is over. I think most people listened to the wishes of the survivors and families of the victims of 9/11, who said it said after 10 years it was time to move on, and for people to use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable causes and random acts of kindness - as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11, the police, fire department, rescue workers, and military.
The No debate, it is over. We have already seen the end of the end the 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis' Linden Hills neighborhood.
My questions to the people who want to continue it, why do you want to go against the wishes of the survivors and families of the victims of 9/11?
Seems like many people are emotionally and personally invested into this concert for their own self-interest reasons, and it shows– very sad
James Sanna
7:33 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
While we don't pull down comments that don't fit strictly within our ban on ones that are "defamatory, abusive, obscene, profane or offensive" (http://southwestminneapolis.patch.com/terms), we *do* try to encourage civil discussion on these pages.
Please avoid name-calling and keep the discussion respectful, everyone.
Jane
7:17 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ David Krieg
Now I get it, you are a perfect example of what is really going on here, and the 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis Minnesota Linden Hills neighborhood.
You go to a concert and wave your American flags, and the next day you say: “I felt like it showed strength and communicated that we are still a United States of America when you harm us. The same ideologically-driven savages perpetrated a similar crime, the murdering of innocent people, while we were gathered in remembrance. In my opinion, it's way too early to end the tribute.”
In the “while we were gathered statement.” You are referring to the massive Anti-American protest in Egypt, Syria and Libya, and other countries yesterday on 9/11.
@ mary helmbrecht “ a celebration of America's strength!!”
THANK YOU – you both showed what this “concert really is” it has a United States of America vs. Them theme.
You gather and think you “showed strength” of the United States of America, They (Egypt, Syria and Libya and other countries, ) gather and think they showed strength.
James
9:24 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I agree everything Jane wrote
mary helmbrecht
9:50 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
SERIOUSLY?????
Betty
9:50 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ Jane You go girl!
We are with you
mary helmbrecht
9:57 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
THEN PLEASE DO US....AND YOU.... A FAVOR AND DON'T ATTEND AGAIN! We would appreciate people with constructive additions/criticisms and views to join us and devote their ime to the Tribute... obviously you only want to compalin but not be involved....I repeat......WHY did you attend if you don't believe in our concert ???
Betty
10:32 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ Jane you are the voice of the people. My sorority sisters and I feel you speak for us.
Stay strong and proud.
@ mary helmbrecht The question for this article and comments is “Are 9/11 Memorials Still Worth It, 11 Years On?” It is not just about the “9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis Minnesota Linden Hills neighborhood.”
There is nothing personal here, and Jane performed a great service describing what happened at other 9/11 Memorials and the views of the rescue workers, survivors and the families of victims of 9/11. As these people and people of New York were directly affected, their memorials and opinions have great weight and influence.
@ mary helmbrecht you said “THEN PLEASE DO US....AND YOU.... A FAVOR AND DON'T ATTEND AGAIN!” My sorority sisters and I did not attend, We spent the day “volunteering for charitable causes and performing random acts of kindness as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11, the police, fire department, rescue workers, and military.”
We spent part of the day “Minnesotans at their best; hundreds of Minnesotans are spending this Day of Service giving back to the community in honor of 9/11. In Minneapolis Second Harvest Heartland Hosts 9/11 Day Of Service” and the rest of the day performing other services for charities.
We are all proud Americans. Peace be with you
mary helmbrecht
11:07 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
You may not have attended but the question was to "jane"-why did SHE attend if she felt so strongly against it? I'm SO glad people are spending the day at charities-terrific -I wish more would do so but some of us want to remember TOGETHER and through music, a non-political totally free expression everyone interprets in their own way is how WE and hundreds of others chose to express it. No one is forcing YOU to come- It is everyone's choice to attend-or NOT attend as they CHOOSE. We're not begging, only offering.The majority of the people have responded favorably-if you do not agree then please don't attend-a woman behind me was complaining & as her friends suggested to her "don't come again" we're not going to make everyone happy. The families of the victims at "ground 0" asked that the politicians stay away as we did-the families joined together and read the names & yes---there were hundreds..this is not up for debate...if you chose to remember 9-11 by volunteering....please do so...we will continue to do it OUR way. We had to PAY the Pk Board to use the Bandshell and I guess it's up to our Board and the Orchestra and Chorus volunteers if we continue to provide a FREE PROFESSIONAL QUALITY CONCERT to our MN community. We have had several hundred positive comments to your FEW negative ones, so we weill continue and it is up to you whether you would feel compelled to give constuctive opinions and assistance or just stay away and let the hundreds of other people enjoy it!
Al
11:15 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Once again as Betty said, it is not all about you.
"@ mary helmbrecht The question for this article and comments is “Are 9/11 Memorials Still Worth It, 11 Years On?” It is not just about the “9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis Minnesota Linden Hills neighborhood.”
There is nothing personal here, and Jane performed a great service describing what happened at other 9/11 Memorials and the views of the rescue workers, survivors and the families of victims of 9/11. As these people and people of New York were directly affected, their memorials and opinions have great weight and influence.
Al
11:17 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@ Betty I am proud of you and your sorority sisters.
@ Jane you are the voice of the people. As a senior citizen who proudly served his country, I feel you speak for me too. So you have all age groups behind you.
@ James I too agree everything Jane wrote. Her estimates of crowd size may be a little off, but that is immaterial, inconsequential and does not matter.
I Love America. Peace be with you
James Sanna
12:12 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
"A little off" isn't really accurate. "Rather misleading" is more like it, but as you say, it's not central to Jane's point. Only trying to correct the record, not shut down view points in this conversation.
mary helmbrecht
11:18 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
ADDENDUM.....As of September 2011,this is now planned, co-ordinated and OFFERED by a Board of Directors--totally non-profit under MN statutes. This year we have operated under "People For Parks" sponsorship, but are in the process of obtaining our own 501c3 and will be a total charitable organization and tax deductable, Up until now, all businesses have donated on their own.
The Park Board DID NOT sponsor us this year and in fact charged us for the use of the Bandshell as they do any other event........ALL donations were totally self-less!!
This should actually concern ONLY those of US volunteering our time, gas and efforts to make this a memorable occassion for the community and a NON-POLITICAL event..
No one is forced or co-erced to attend--so if you choose to celebrate life, America or the victims of the 9-11 tragedy, please do so......
Tom
11:37 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
A fantastic question Are 9/11 Memorials Still Worth It, 11 Years On?
I am a school teacher and we had similar discussion in class today
You may like to know that most of the children say they and their parents are really into volunteering and following the New York example. I think that this will increase in the future
Tom
11:55 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
What? mary helmbrecht just posted "This year we have operated under "People For Parks" sponsorship"
you just opened up a can of worms
I think most people did not care what the Park Board spent on this, but the “People For Parks" sponsorship is a big deal. I did not know they were doing this type of thing. They get a lot of donations, and this should have been made known to all the contributors
"People For Parks” should be transparent. Someone at "People For Parks” has a lot of answering to do. What else is “People For Parks” up to that we do not know about?
Tom
11:55 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
A fantastic question Are 9/11 Memorials Still Worth It, 11 Years On?
I am a school teacher and we had similar discussion in class today
You may like to know that most of the children say they and their parents are really into volunteering and following the New York example. I think that this will increase in the future
Aailyah
8:01 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
@ James Sanna your post of: “"A little off" isn't really accurate. "Rather misleading" is more like it, but as you say, it's not central to Jane's point. Only trying to correct the record, not shut down viewpoints in this conversation.”
“Only trying to correct the record” by calling someone “Rather misleading” while others say her estimates were “"A little off"? You got to be kidding
Since it was you who posted “I came up with around 250-300 in the audience”, and gave the estimate for the band and choir, and Jane used that number (she did not give any numbers before that), Are you saying you were trying to be misleading?
Jane used your numbers for “Around 250 people in the audience. The choir and orchestra were around 80 people, add the flag-bearers, color guard and volunteers, you get well over 100 people. And other concerts at the Bandshell draw 2,000 people in the audience. Anyway, it really doesn’t matter the exact count when the audience gets this small”
@ James Sanna You ARE trying to shut down viewpoints and take sides. I have seen you do this many times when you get involved with different subjects on the Patch. A reporter should not do this, aren’t you supposed to be unbiased? My Mom says she is disappointed with you
BTW my family I like the concert. And My Mom said I should discuss this in class today as we are talking about 9/11, the media, Mideast events on 9/11 this week.
My family and I are proud Americans
Aailyah
8:28 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Hope’s facts were correct. You can easily use Google to find many trustworthy articles in the media that substantiated her point.
“Many of the survivors and families of the victims said it was time to move on, and use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable cause, as a way of paying respect to the victims of 9/11. They said after 10 years it was time to move on and did not attend the ceremonies. The morning ceremony in New York that used to be attended by thousands was only attended by 200 people. The rest of the ceremonies in New York also had similar drops in attendance. Most towns around New York canceled their ceremonies saying it was time to move on, and also asked people to use the day as a day of volunteering for charitable causes and random acts of kindness, as a way of paying respect to the victim of 9/11. The same thing happened across the United States of America. “
“Minnesotans at their best; hundreds of Minnesotans are spending this Day of Service giving back to the community in honor of 9/11. In Minneapolis Second Harvest Heartland Hosts 9/11 Day Of Service”
And it was reported in many places that the morning ceremony in New York at the time the tragedy occurred was only attended by 200, down from the thousands that attended last year.
I have to catch the bus for school or I would have more to say. But I would like to join the others who say Peace be with you and to everyone.
My family and I are proud Americans
Achim
9:56 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Aailyah you are impressive. I agree with your comments backed by facts.
You might be going to school but you schooled others here.
I also wish Peace be with you and to everyone.
Achim
10:24 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
What I found most disturbing is the 9/11 tribute Minneapolis Bandshell is also “a celebration of America's strength” according to Mary Helmbrecht a Minnesota 9-11 Tribute Board Member. In the last few days we have seen what that kind of thing can lead to in Yemen, Egypt, Syria and Libya and other countries
Jane comment pointed out
“@ David Krieg Now I get it, you are a perfect example of what is really going on here, and the 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis Minnesota Linden Hills neighborhood. You go to a concert and the next day you say: “I felt like it showed strength and communicated that we are still a United States of America when you harm us. The same ideologically-driven savages perpetrated a similar crime, the murdering of innocent people, while we were gathered in remembrance. In my opinion, it's way too early to end the tribute” In the “while we were gathered statement.” You are referring to the massive Anti-American protest in Egypt, Syria and Libya, and other countries yesterday on 9/11”
“@ mary helmbrecht “ a celebration of America's strength!!” THANK YOU – you both showed what this “concert really is” it has a United States of America vs. Them theme. You gather and think you “showed strength” of the United States of America, They (Egypt, Syria and Libya and other countries, ) gather and think they showed strength”
This can lead to bad things.
I wish Peace be with you and to everyone
mary helmbrecht
11:12 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Just a couple clarifications....
Apparently my use of the word "strength" is being taken completely taken out of context. Our Country's Pledge of Allegiance says "One Nation Under God, Indivisible"... our "strength" is our ability to come together as one Nation in the face of adversity and show our resiliency when our Nation and our Nation's people are attacked and threatened.
The other point of contention that seems to be a major dispute is the amount of people at Lake Harriet Bandshell. I can tell by the photos James attached, that the crowd photos were taken BEFORE the event-during our rehearsal just prior to the concert---Karla (one of our conductors) didn't change her clothes until the concert . If you saw the Fox 9 News video you can see the huge amount of crowd we did have.
Najeeb
1:00 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Your explanation of using “a celebration of America's strength!!” is the same explanation the massive protesters are currently using in Yemen, Egypt, Syria, Iran and Libya and other countries. Especially when you bring in your God to justify it. They feel the same way that the United States of America is attacking them, and they are justified in their actions by their God and Prophet.
I don’t think I could explain this to you, just as I don’t think I could explain this t the protesters in these countries. Please think about it for a few days, see what is going on in the Middle East, and try to open your heart for the truth.
Your explanation “Apparently my use of the word "strength" is being taken completely taken out of context. Our Country's Pledge of Allegiance says "One Nation Under God, Indivisible"... our "strength" is our ability to come together as one Nation in the face of adversity and show our resiliency when our Nation and our Nation's people are attacked and threatened.”
Crowd numbers was never really a point of contention. I think if Jane had it to do over she would have said the crowd was half the size of last year and related that to the trends around the country and in New York.
Al said “@ James I too agree everything Jane wrote. Her estimates of crowd size may be a little off, but that is immaterial, inconsequential and does not matter.” Others said “And it's not central to Jane's point”
I also wish Peace be with you and to everyone.
Najeeb
1:29 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
@ mary helmbrecht If you want to know what influence the concert has on some people look at the Jane’s comments about comments David Krieg made
Jane’s comments about comments David Krieg made
“@ David Krieg Now I get it, you are a example of what is going on here, and the 9/11 Tribute Concert at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Southwest Minneapolis Minnesota Linden Hills neighborhood. You go to a concert and wave your American flags, and the next day you say: “I felt like it showed strength and communicated that we are still a United States of America when you harm us. The same ideologically-driven savages perpetrated a similar crime, the murdering of innocent people, while we were gathered in remembrance. In my opinion, it's way too early to end the tribute.” In the “while we were gathered statement.” You are referring to the massive Anti-American protest in Egypt, Syria and Libya, and other countries yesterday on 9/11.”
This is America and everyone has free speech but David Krieg used some inflammatory rhetoric.
Please think about it for a few days, see what is going on in the Middle East, and try to open your heart for the truth.
Peace Be Upon Him, I also wish Peace be with you and to everyone.
Put a little love in your heart
8:15 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Let’s all get along in PEACE and HARMONY and the World will be a better place.
Sing this song
Put A Little Love In Your Heart
Think of your fellow man
Lend him a helping hand
Put a little love in your heart
You see it's getting late
Oh please don't hesitate
Put a little love in your heart
And the world will be a better place
And the world will be a better place
For you and me
You just wait and see
Another day goes by
And still the children cry
Put a little love in your heart
If you want the world to know
We won't let hatred grow
Put a little love in your heart
And the world will be a better place
And the world will be a better place
For you and me
You just wait and see
Wait and see
Take a good look around
And if you're looking' down
Put a little love in your heart
I hope when you decide
Kindness will be your guide
Put a little love in your heart
And the world will be a better place
And the world will be a better place
For you and me
You just wait and see
Put a little love in your heart, Put a little love in your heart, Put a little love in your heart